Krogen 48′ North Sea

The 50th Krogen 48′ Heralds an Ergonomic Makeover

View of the galley and salon of the Krogen 48' AE

View of the galley and salon of the Krogen 48' AE

Kadey-Krogen Yachts said yesterday that the 50th edition of its highly successful 48′ North Sea line is the first to sport a series of now-standard modifications that significantly improve liveability aboard a boat that was already highly regarded in the liveaboard community.  The company took the opportunity to re-badge the boat as the “Krogen 48′ AE,” the AE short for “Advanced Ergonomics.”  The changes include updates to the layouts of the salon, pilothouse and flybridge, as well as the incorporation of home-sized stairs and bannisters to ease movement through the boat.

I would like to tease the good-natured Larry Polster, Kadey-Krogen’s vice president, about how “Advanced” these ergonomic changes really are, but the truth is, in the cruising world they ARE advanced.  Not surprisingly, Kadey-Krogen collected the input from its customers to focus these updates on liveability — that somewhat undefined quality of making a boat easy to live aboard.

The Krogen 48′ North Sea has always been a favorite of long-distance cruisers, passagemakers and liveaboards.  The size seems to be a particular sweet spot for couples who want to live aboard and the boat holds its value extremely well.  A quick survey of Krogen 48′ models for sale on Yachtworld has even ten-year-old boats still well over the $700K mark, which means they really haven’t lost any value at all.

Back to the changes incorporated in the Krogen 48′ AE.  Here’s a brief list:

  • An option for an L- or U-shaped settee along the starboard side of the salon
  • A table that both expands and raises and lowers to serve as coffee table and dining table for eight.
  • A larger galley forward to starboard, with a now-standard Viking four-burner range, household size fridge/freezer, convection microwave, and room for both a trash compactor and dishwasher.
  • A nearly floor-to-ceiling pantry opposite the galley, on the port side.
  • New, deep and wide steps steps up to the pilothouse, with a sturdy bannister for security.
  • A redesigned pilothouse that accommodates side-by-side helm chairs and a larger electronics console (hooray!!).
  • New molded steps outside the portside pilothouse door up to the boat deck and flybridge.
  • Boat deck will accommodate both a 13-foot tender, as well as a summer kitchen.
  • The flybridge helm is now off to starboard, with an L-shape settee to port.

Kadey-Krogen is going through some of its other models just coming intro production now and making some of these same ergonomic changes, particularly to steps and stairs.  Does this kind of change exact a price in terms of space utilization? Of course. But the 48′ is big enough to handle the changes and the improvements in “liveability” are absolutely worth the price. If you’re going to live aboard one of these boats, the convenience and safety of actual human-sized stair treads and risers is more of a big deal than you might think.

For more pictures of the changes involved, check out the November blog entry of the Kadey-Krogen marketing team.  You can get a good feel for the new helm and flybridge arrangement in the pictures there.  You can check out the Krogen 48′ AE at Trawler Fest in Fort Lauderdale at the Bahia Mar January 27-29, and at the Miami International Boat Show (Sea Isle Marina location), from Febryary 17-21.

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Posted by Tom in Boats, Cruising Under Power, Powerboats

Kadey-Krogen and Nordhavn at the Upcoming Miami Boat Show

2010 Miami International Boat Show and Strictly Sail

2010 Miami International Boat Show and Strictly Sail

Kadey-Krogen said this week that it will have a Krogen 58′ and the 48′ North Sea with the redesigned galley and bridge, which we wrote about here on OceanLines recently.

P.A.E. advises that their final plans for the upcoming Miami boat shows include the 75 EYF and the 62 at Collins Ave., — more formally know as The Yacht and Brokerage Show in Miami Beach.  They also plan to have a 47 over at the on-water display of the actual Miami International Boat Show and Strictly Sail at the Sea Isle Marina in Miami.

At this point, Selene does not appear to have a boat at the show, although the Selene Annapolis dealer will be there and Jet Tern Marine owner and chief designer Howard Chen will be attending to accept an award from MotorBoating Magazine.

We will update you over the next week with the plans of other passagemaking boat builders.  If you use the official website for the boat show, don’t rely on the search function there to tell you who will be there. There are some brands missing from the database. Best to check the website of the brand you’re interested in directly.  Here are the basic logistical details for the main Miami Boat Show, from the show organizers:

Show Information
Dates & Location
February 11–15, 2010
MIAMI BEACH CONVENTION CENTER
1901 Convention Center Drive
Miami Beach, FL 33139

SEA ISLE MARINA & YACHTING CENTER (New home of Strictly Sail Miami, joining forces with the Miami International Boat Show powerboat in-water location)
1635 N. Bayshore Drive
Miami, FL 33132
*** This location now requires a ticket or badge for admission.

NEW! BIG BOAT ROW
Looking for the BIG sailboats? Begin the day at Sea Isle Marina, then head over to Bayside Marina by way of Strictly Sail Miami’s FREE water taxi service to view some of the largest sailboats and catamarans in the world. Lagoon America, Leopard, Prout, Seawind Catamarans, Hylas, Passport and others will all have boats on display at Big Boat Row.

Courtesy Shuttle Buses will run between all locations including the park & ride at the American Airlines Arena from 1 hour prior to show opening through 1 hour after show close daily.

Show Hours
Premier Day
Thursday, February 11, 10:00am–6:00pm

Friday, February 12, 10:00am–8:00pm
Saturday, February 13, 10:00am–8:00pm
Sunday, February 14, 10:00am–8:00pm
Monday, February 15, 10:00am–6:00pm

Sea Isle Marina & Yachting Center is open from 10:00am–6:00pm daily

Admission
NEW — 5 Day Pass (Good all 5 days of the show)
Thursday, February 11th–Monday, February 15th — $75.00

Premier Day — $30.00

Friday–Monday:
Adults — $16.00
2 Day Pass — $30.00
Youth, age 13–15 years — $6.00
Children, age 12 and younger — FREE

Tickets will also be available for purchase at both the Miami Beach Convention Center and the Sea Isle Marina & Yachting Center locations.

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Posted by Tom in Boats, Cruising Under Power, Industry News, Passagemaking News, Powerboats

Kadey-Krogen Unveils Updated Krogen 48′ North Sea

Expanded Galley Design on Krogen 48' North Sea -- Photo Courtesy of Kadey-Krogen Yachts

Expanded Galley Design on Krogen 48' North Sea -- Photo Courtesy of Kadey-Krogen Yachts

Kadey-Krogen Yachts recently announced that it has begun delivering an updated version of the venerable Krogen 48′ North Sea trawler. The boat was introduced in 1996, and like all boats, it has evolved and changed as a result of owner feedback and advancements in technology. Key changes to the Krogen 48′ are an enlarged galley and a redesigned flybridge.

Here’s the announcement from Kadey-Krogen:

Owner feedback was the driving force in changes made to the Krogen 48’ all of which enhance the liveability of the boat. The centerpiece of the newly enlarged galley on the Krogen 48’ is a four-burner Viking range. Household sized refrigeration is standard and there is room for a trash compactor and dishwasher as well. Stainless steel is standard on the appliances although traditional finishes are available. Kadey-Krogen also completely reengineered the flybridge. Instead of a centerline helm flanked by settees running fore and aft, the flybridge helm (with enough room for two helm chairs) is now off to starboard with an L-shaped settee to port that extends the entertainment space of the boat and makes cruising on the flybridge more comfortable for guests. The flybridge also has a summer kitchen, a feature that contributes to the boat’s self-sufficient capabilities and is popular with owners who entertain on the hook.

Larry Polster, vice president of Kadey-Krogen describes the Krogen 48’, “Our owners are the ones out there living the lifestyle so we trust that the feedback they provide will make our boats better for the next generation of Krogen owners. Though some of these changes are subtle, the latest 48’ North Sea is truly a reinvented classic.”

The second reinvented 48’ will be delivered to East Coast owners Will and Sue Parry who believe this boat will bring them full circle in their Kadey-Krogen experience. “This will be our fifth Kadey-Krogen trawler. The first was also a 48’ North Sea and shares the same name as we have given our new 48’, Second Star. We’ve owned four different models and the 48’ North Sea continues to be the vessel of our dreams.”

The first Krogen 48’ with the enlarged galley arrived in Seattle last fall. Her owners are now full time liveaboards but are graciously allowing the company to show off their new home at the Lake Union Boats Afloat show in Seattle, January 29-February 6. The second yacht with the enlarged galley arrived in the U.S. in December and is currently undergoing final commissioning. She will debut at the Ft. Lauderdale Trawler Fest Jan. 29-31 and exhibit at the Miami International Boat Show before she is delivered north to her owners in Annapolis.

To date, Kadey-Krogen has delivered 48 of the North Sea model, with hull #49 sold and under construction.

Copyright © 2010 by OceanLines LLC

Posted by Tom in Boats, Construction & Technical, Cruising Under Power, Industry News, Passagemaking News, Powerboats

10 Questions with Kadey-Krogen’s Larry Polster

 

Krogen 58 Cruises Among the Whales

Krogen 58 Cruises Among the Whales

Editor’s Note – In this series we feature a Q&A with the leading executives of passagemaking boat companies.  The second installment features the thoughts of Lary Polster, vice president of Kadey-Krogen, one of the top brands of passagemaking boats. The following bio was provided by Kadey-Krogen:

Larry Polster is a life-long boater, born and raised in Cleveland, OH. As a child he explored the Great Lakes from Mackinac Island to Montreal, and became thoroughly hooked on boating the day, at age 12, he piloted his family’s sedan cruiser the last half of their voyage from Kingston, Ontario, to Rochester, NY, because both mom and dad were too seasick to run the boat. Fast forward 25 years.  After ten years of owning a cruising sailboat, Larry and his wife Janet bought a Krogen 42′ – the beginning of Larry’s relationship with Kadey-Krogen Yachts. Then, completely in love with the Krogen 42′ and all it stood for, Larry volunteered to help out Kadey-Krogen at the Annapolis Boat Show. At the conclusion of the show, he was made an offer to come work for the company in Florida, an offer he graciously turned down. A seed was planted which grew into his mid-life crisis: he left his consulting job of 17 years and opened the Maryland office for Kadey-Krogen Yachts. A few years later he became a partner in the company and currently serves as vice president.  Larry and Janet along with their daughter Hannah and their Portuguese Water Dog, Sasha (the office mascot), reside in Annapolis, MD.

The questions asked are all from OceanLines and the answers from Larry Polster are verbatim.

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1.   OceanLines:  Kadey-Krogen is considered to be among the top couple of full-displacement yacht builders in the industry.  When did the company really begin to gel and succeed in the marketplace?  And was there a particular boat that represented that “turning point?”

Polster:   The Krogen 42’ is what started it all and we built 206 of them from 1977 through 1997.  The Krogen 42’ became immensely popular in the mid-80’s and I think that secured the company’s place in the industry.  There was also a second turning point with the launch of the first Krogen 58’ in 2000.  It was the 58 project that was the impetus for the level of refinement, both in equipment as well as fit and finish, that is found in each and every Kadey-Krogen built today.

2. OceanLines:  What, in your mind, defines the Kadey-Krogen “brand?”  In other words, what is it about Kadey-Krogen that customers and boaters think, that they don’t think about other brands?” 

Polster:  Actually Tom, I think that really is two different questions.  The “brand” can be summed up in four words:  Capability, Liveability, Family and Value.  As for what our owners think, or more importantly know, about Kadey-Krogen, is that we represent a full and complete package – from the initial handshake to the inevitable sale when the owners are ready to move on.  Look on YachtWorld at the huge percentage of our yachts that are listed with us and then look at other brands.  Our owners stick with us and that speaks volumes.  Yes, there are those out there that are capable of crossing oceans and a motoryacht can make a great liveaboard, but only a Kadey-Krogen is At Home on Any Sea.

3.   OceanLines:  Like many other builders in recent years, Kadey-Krogen seems to have concentrated on expanding the larger end of its fleet.  Do you think this represents a shift of the early market away from smaller boats in general or just an expansion?  In other words, is there still a good market for the smallest boats in this market segment of liveaboards and serious cruisers?

Polster:  There is definitely a market for the 40-50 foot trawler.  Our expansion on the larger end has been purely to fill in size gaps with vessels that can be handled by a couple.  We had nothing between 48 and 58 feet, hence the 55, and we had nothing larger than the 58, hence the 64’ Expedition.  Other builders are expanding way beyond 65’ but anything beyond the mid-sixties really requires more than two people and until you get near 100 feet, you don’t have proper space for crew.  Perhaps that is why there are such a relatively high number of large, late-model trawlers for sale.  Getting back to the 40-50 foot market, if you closely exam the Krogen 48’ North Sea you will notice that we put a tremendous amount of effort in bringing a proven model into the 21st century.

4.      OceanLines:  Has Kadey-Krogen looked at some of the latest technology developments, such as the various forms of diesel-electric propulsion, or perhaps newer hull designs such as the cat SWATH hulls?  If so, what is the likelihood some of it will make its way aboard some future (or present) Kadey-Krogen yachts?

Polster:  If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.  The laws of physics and hydrodynamics have not changed.  We feel our efforts are better concentrated on continued improvements with proven materials and equipment. 

Krogen 64 Artist's Rendering

Krogen 64 Artist's Rendering

5.    OceanLines:  You recently announced the availability of the Krogen 64’ Expedition.  While the economy is certainly affecting all new boat builders, is it possible Kadey-Krogen might offer even larger yachts, perhaps in the same Expedition series as the 55’ and 64’?

Polster:  Possible, yes, likely, no.   We have a design for a beautiful 77 footer that would extend the Expedition series, but we build yachts that a couple can handle with ease and confidence. A 77 footer would push those limits for most couples.

6.     OceanLines:  In your opinion, which systems aboard today’s yachts are the most mature and reliable; and which are the least so?  If you could send a message to systems suppliers to Kadey-Krogen yachts, what would it be?

Polster:  To me, hands down, the most mature and reliable is the modern diesel engine like the 6.8 liter John Deere.  Here is a piece of equipment with parts moving roughly 1800 times per minute.  That’s 108,000 times per hour of operation which means parts will move 216 million times before the factory warranty even expires! 

As for less reliable systems, there are certainly items that one is more likely to replace than others, but that does not make it an inferior product or something a supplier needs to work on and I think that any builder that concentrates on quality will say the same thing.  The overwhelming majority of the components have their origin outside of the recreational marine or yacht market and as such are well proven before we ever see them.

7.    OceanLines:  What features do Kadey-Krogen owners most often point to as influencing their decision to purchase a Kadey-Krogen yacht?

Polster:  The liveability of a Kadey-Krogen is well recognized by the cruising community, but the way a Kadey-Krogen handles at sea, especially in a following sea, is what cements the relationship.  Other trawlers either get pushed around, slalom like a snow ski or water ski on edge, or both in following seas because the aft third of their underbody is relatively flat and the entire beam of their transom is in the water.  Our Pure Full Displacement hull form with fine entry and wineglass stern translate into what I call the “magic carpet ride” in following seas.  The boat feels like it is hovering in place, but in reality is tracking forward as if on rails. 

Krogen 48, A Popular Liveaboard Cruiser

Krogen 48, A Popular Liveaboard Cruiser

8.     OceanLines:  Are there some examples of owner-requested features aboard your yachts that have become standard?

Polster:  We are a limited production builder, and as such have the opportunity to sit with each customer and review personal touches.  Most recently it was the Viking range you may have seen in the Krogen 55’ Expedition and Krogen 58.  A couple was moving up from a Krogen 44’ to a Krogen 48’ and they asked if we could fit in the Viking.  After a design review session with our naval architect, voila, the Viking stove is now standard aboard the 48’ North Sea.

9.    OceanLines:  Some of the builders in the “small boat” market have done a good job of bringing new boaters in at the bottom end of their product lines and keeping them as they upgrade through the fleet to larger and larger vessels.  Do you see a way for a trawler builder to do this, both from a size and price perspective?

Polster:  Yes, although we feel it’s more important to keep them in the “family” which is why some Krogen owners are buying smaller, not larger.  In the past eighteen months we have had four sets of owners in the “multiple” category.  One couple purchased their 4th Krogen, another their 5th and still another their 6th Krogen. 

10.   OceanLines:  Are you still satisfied with having Kadey-Krogen yachts built in East Asia?  Do you see possibilities down the road for builders like yourselves to take advantage of some of the emerging capabilities in places like Turkey and Poland?

Polster:  We have a very special relationship with Mr. Lin Kao Shui and Asia Harbor Yacht Builders.  We have been building at Asia Harbor for 18 years.   They only build for us and we only build at Asia Harbor.  Both companies have worked hard to produce the quality yachts that are Kadey-Krogen today.  As you might suspect from answers to some of the earlier questions, we’re not about to jump on the “greatest thing since sliced bread” bandwagon.  Over the past ten years we have seen many companies leave Taiwan only to return upon realizing that the grass is not greener…

11.   OceanLines:  In the last 18 months, most builders in your market space have introduced new models based upon an existing hull.  Kadey-Krogen has not.  Why?

Polster:  We’ve jokingly dubbed this phenomenon the “stretch-a-boat” concept.  In the last 18 months we have seen notable manufacturers stretch a 41-footer to be a 49-footer, a 47-footer to a 52-footer, and a 55-footer to a 60-footer. They have taken existing models and just inserted five to eight feet into the mold and voila, they have a new hull without significant design, engineering and tooling costs.  The problem is they have ignored architectural integrity, something Kadey-Krogen Yachts will not do.

12.   OceanLines:  Architectural integrity is not a concept that has received much attention.  Would you please explain what you mean?

Polster:  You are correct.  It has not received much attention because it only became an issue in the recreational yacht market very recently as builders started stretching boats in order to save development costs.  Perhaps the best-known example of violating architectural integrity occurred back when SUVs first became all the rage. Manufacturers simply took the chassis of another vehicle and put a large boxy structure on top, thereby raising the center of gravity. Remember all those early stories about SUVs rolling over?

Do I think these stretched models are going to roll over the way those early SUVs did?  Certainly not, but when a naval architect designs a boat, the hull is designed to accomplish a set of goals.  Designing a new boat is not done piece-meal and many decisions and measurements affect multiple characteristics.   If you take a boat and stretch it, the engineering is changed. You simply can’t design the proper curvature and shape of a hull, then stretch the middle by 10% or more, or stick a larger cockpit on it, and have the physics stay the same. You can’t, using sound naval architecture principles, place the propellers, rudders, etc. on a boat and then change its length by 10-15% and add a larger engine and prop, and expect the same handling result.   Take a sea trial, preferably on a really rough day. Insist on turning off the stabilizers and hand steering the boat in all conditions and you’ll see what I mean.

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